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on this episode of skeptico

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how our power and control issues keep us

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from finding the damn truth

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here's a famous movie clip with today's

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guest in it but someday somewhere

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someone may find out the damn truth we

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better

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ourselves another government patriot

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must always be ready to defend his

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country stop right there we're watching

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the famous movie jfk and there is sean

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he's just a kid of course he's sitting

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in the courtroom he doesn't say much but

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he's in the film

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sean has been in and around this

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conspiracy stuff jfk probably one of the

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most famous conspiratorial movies of all

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well sean's been around that

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all his life

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and he has a new documentary series that

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chronicles some of the interviews he's

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done over the years around the

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parapolitical conspiratorial world that

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we live in if you scratch right beneath

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and we're going to certainly talk about

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that we're going to talk about his book

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but i think where sean stone really

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is when you talk about some of the

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deeper stuff the deep spirituality stuff

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it's about the power and control issues

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that we all have

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and that's what you said sean i'm just

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this is

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rehashing what you said

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hey

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i got power and control issues

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i look at my family i look at my wife i

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have power and control issues i look at

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my children

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i got power and control issues i want

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them to be a certain way

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is it really so hard for us to

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how that extends to people who have

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you know just enormous power i mean like

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bill gates is a is a tragic figure he'd

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be in some shakespearean play look into

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his eyes i mean it just

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that's not a a a good soul there

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it's like i had this conversation

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recently by the way about gates with

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this guy that said oh i like gates you

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know i he does business with him or what

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not and i say

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okay why what's he about what's he

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trying why is he trying to control your

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body oh he's not trying to control

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everybody he's trying to help the planet

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you know he's done more for the planet

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than anybody

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say uh-huh so sticking sticking a needle

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in everybody is what is really going to

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is he actually looking to to to

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raise the center of living in africa

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again into the material world right

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spiritual realm why would i think that

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my job to do anything other than to

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bring this light forward hey i'm

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supposed to fill the hole with light so

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in that sense i i don't worry about

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gates he's a pathetic kind of doesn't

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look like he's it looks like his hole is

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not filled with light to me kind of

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and there are very few that are and this

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is the nature of our reality that we

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have right now but i think that the

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revolution and the transformation comes

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from from the masses

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it comes from the millions of people

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waking up and taking their power back

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so this is a good one there's a couple

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of really interesting little tidbits in

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there in true skeptical fashion there's

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a little bit of push back on a couple of

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points but all in all it was really cool

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to connect with a guy i think is

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underappreciated in terms of what he's

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important important body of knowledge

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that often gets overlooked if you just

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look at it from a kind of hollywood

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perspective which unfortunately is the

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way that people normally look at sean

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stone so this is a good one hope you

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enjoy it stick around for my interview

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with sean stone

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welcome to skeptico where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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their critics i'm your host alex sicares

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and today we welcome sean stone to

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skeptico now it's kind of tough to do a

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on sean stone because no matter what

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you're going to leave out all these

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other angles and people are going to

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wonder why you did that so

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shawnstone.info.com if you will i don't

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usually read biles but this is kind of

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succinct and

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multifaceted in the way that i'd like to

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sean stone is a filmmaker media host

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author actor poet speaker and above all

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truth seeker and then he had to throw in

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spiritual activists in there at the end

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i love as we said in the inside of the

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show that's what we're all about he has

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best kept secret it's fantastic i watch

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you can watch it download the whole

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thing for five bucks on vimeo it's

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he also has a book out that i wasn't

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on that as well the guys at princeton i

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his thesis at princeton and it's this

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that's all terrific um so so we'll talk

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things we can talk about but it's just

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terrific having you here sean thanks so

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much for joining me on the show

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hey thanks for having me on

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best kept secret and i kind of hinted

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that i wanted to talk about the origin

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story and i think that's a big part of

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let's jump in there and talk about what

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that show is about what that series six

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it's like the name says what is what is

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the best kept secret and to me the

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debt slavery which a lot of us have come

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the nature of this system of uh

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currencies that uh they control you know

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principalities you can call them demons

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seeing those let me pull them up here

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yeah that's a buzz saw buzz saw still is

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intact my personal youtube channel sean

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stone was taken down by youtube censored

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but this channel entered the buzz saw

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like front page news it's like

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everything and you're doing these

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interviews like the one that i always

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remember is with douglas dietrich and it

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was just it was just one it was about

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the presidio thing and he also

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interviewed mike laquino you know

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unbelievable all this satanism and it

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was mind-blowing to me it was paradigm

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shifting it was all the things that i

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now see in other people where their

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paradigm is completely stripped away and

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they really are left scrambling with

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what to do do i take that in it seemed

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real and then they check it out and it

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is real and then they're like oh my god

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what does this mean for everything i

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know and

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i'm just thinking what is it like for

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you

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to say

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yeah i did that six years ago yeah i

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mean i've pretty much been

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aware of this stuff since i was a little

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kid i mean it's just

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it's it's to me it's always it's always

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confounding

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how

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cognitive dissonance and

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just sort of

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for me even more than cognitive

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dissonance was like the lack of

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curiosity

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i was just bored by by mundane

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conversations you know people sit around

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and talk about i don't know your sister

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is doing this um

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so and so you know bought a new car

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so and so

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you know hasn't

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hasn't repaired their house in a long

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time it's starting to fall apart like

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just a conversation that was just so

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mundane or gossip you know

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and i was always interested by things

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that were

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bigger you know like okay

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you know you look at an event like

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kennedy's assassination which obviously

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my dad made the film jfk when i was

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about six years old and i was in that

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film

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and um

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and it's like

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that's that's that's like an epic

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story to start to investigate unravel

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even if you don't even if you don't get

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to the bottom of who did it right even

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if you start to just figure out okay

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what the story that was told to us was a

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cover story it was not real there was no

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way that this guy

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goes to russia

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defects gives us gives up his passport

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marries a russian woman whose dog who's

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the daughter of uh like a russian soviet

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general at the time comes back to

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america just gets his passport back

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brings his soviet bride isn't being

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watched by the cia isn't being you know

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isn't being monitored at any level goes

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and likes actively like supports both

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communists you know castro and then he

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goes to tries to go against castro and

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he's like basically you know he's he's

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working next you know he's working in

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the same building as guy venice or the

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former fbi one of the heads of the fbi i

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mean it's just like yeah and then this

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guy just picks up you know he orders a

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gun to you know mail order a gun he

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could have gone into a store and bought

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one he orders it shipping to this p.o

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box so you can go and get it and then he

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goes and he you know he's like and then

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he takes a shot at a general and then he

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goes of course and kills kennedy with

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three amazing shots the first of which

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is the easiest to pull off but this is

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completely the car i mean it's just like

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you know people like i'm just sitting

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here going what does it take for people

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to wake up you kind of answered that in

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an interview i just saw that you just

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published recently and you said you know

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what

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people want to feel protected

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they want to feel protected and they

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want to feel like someone is in control

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so even if they have to

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do this crazy dance around this obvious

385
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information

386
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ultimately they're trying to get their

387
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needs net of like tell me it's all gonna

388
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be okay daddy tell me the bad people

389
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aren't gonna come for me daddy i mean

390
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right isn't that's what i heard you say

391
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that's right that's right that's exactly

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it's the child it's a child in us that's

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scared

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of stepping into our adult

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you know king and queen ship let's say

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right

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and stepping into that level of

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responsibility and so what i was getting

399
00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:03,519
at with the kennedy thing it's like

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is this is this consciousness basically

401
00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:07,519
like this collective consciousness

402
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experiencing deception

403
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and manipulation to basically as

404
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barometers of saying okay are you ready

405
00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:15,680
yet are you ready to actually see the

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truth are you ready to really face it to

407
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face the shadow to actually realize that

408
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the shadow is is empty and it's just

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whatever you want whatever fear you want

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to project into it

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including your own face

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until you ultimately come to this

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realization that

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there is only oneness

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and everything that's cast is just

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every shadow that's cast is just

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a blockage of the light

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basically of the light of let's say the

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light of of truth

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and everything that every shadow that's

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cast is just a blockage

422
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in this journey of ultimately

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discovering that

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there is nothing but ourselves

425
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and that is the odd the i am the

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collective i am

427
00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,560
totally into that and i think the

428
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non-dual approach

429
00:15:03,110 --> 00:15:00,560
totally has to fit in here in a in a

430
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really fundamental way at the same time

431
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and i think this is what your work is

432
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about in a way is that's not exactly

433
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where we live on a day-to-day basis and

434
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:13,440
the nesting dolls do have to be taken

435
00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:16,240
apart one by one it's like when people

436
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:17,519
want to reduce

437
00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,320
all this uh horrible evil that's being

438
00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:22,560
perpetrated on

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the population as you know shadow work

440
00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:27,519
and it's like we all have our shadow and

441
00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:30,480
it's like well that may be true but

442
00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:32,240
part of it isn't part of our spiritual

443
00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:33,680
journey to

444
00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:37,360
not let that shadow play out in terms of

445
00:15:42,629 --> 00:15:39,920
you know trafficking little kids and

446
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,639
performing satanic rituals with

447
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three-year-olds that

448
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it's it's a complex question

449
00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:51,509
it's a transmutation process

450
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fundamentally whereby first you have to

451
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:56,639
be willing to look at something

452
00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:58,959
and consciousness is finally getting to

453
00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:00,639
that place of actually starting to look

454
00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:02,480
at things and actually acknowledge

455
00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,680
things that's what that's what they call

456
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:05,440
it the great awakening in 2020. it was

457
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:06,160
like

458
00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,519
all of a sudden people were talking

459
00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:09,839
about human trafficking and

460
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:10,959
it wasn't

461
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,399
because that's really what i would hear

462
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,800
a lot and i i

463
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:18,399
i would go to the you know it's like i

464
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:20,160
would go to places or interview people

465
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:21,440
or talk to people and it's always that

466
00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:22,959
sort of like well we just don't talk

467
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,519
about it it's just not polite it's just

468
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:27,040
you don't you know it's it's

469
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,320
you know you speak you don't want to

470
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:30,320
speak of the devil you know because it's

471
00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:33,120
bad juju it's bad energy

472
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:34,880
and

473
00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:39,040
it's like you know but you can't it's

474
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,399
also what they call the spiritual world

475
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,240
is you know spiritual bypassing right

476
00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,399
it's like just good vibes let's just be

477
00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:46,160
on the positive

478
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:48,800
well the ultimate positive is to

479
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:52,240
transmute that which is lower density

480
00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:53,920
lower you know lower frequency to

481
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,000
transit to to work through it and to

482
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:58,320
bring that energy into a higher space of

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00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:59,360
love

484
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and i've experienced that like firsthand

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because i've actually

486
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,160
gone into like very dense places where

487
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:08,400
satan has worshipped like in abandoned

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00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,720
mental hospitals where people died you

489
00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:13,120
know either died we're you know we're

490
00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:14,480
we're possessed

491
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,959
we're plagued we're tortured we're we're

492
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:18,880
we're humiliated we're hurt right

493
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,559
violated

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00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:23,039
and the energy is so low it's like it's

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just

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00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:26,160
it's a complete you know albatross and

497
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:27,839
you've got to basically walk through

498
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:28,799
that

499
00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,160
go crazy this is my first movie

500
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:34,000
gravestone was about this you know you

501
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:35,520
either start to you start to crack up

502
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:36,799
and

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00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,720
because it scatters you that energy is

504
00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:42,640
very low frequency it scatters you and

505
00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,880
it it bring you know it brings up

506
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,039
madness in your so in you right it gets

507
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:49,360
reflected with madness

508
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:51,039
paranoia you know things like this

509
00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:52,720
hysteria

510
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or but the ultimate

511
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,039
journey through that is either you go

512
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:59,120
mad you become kurts you know apocalypse

513
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:00,960
now or you

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00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:03,120
um you have to overcome

515
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:04,000
that

516
00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:08,480
it having walked those places and

517
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:11,039
actually gone to that end of actually

518
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,200
transmuting into a state of

519
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:15,200
pure love and like

520
00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:18,400
holding a holy holy whole

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00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:20,320
frequency a whole different frequency

522
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:21,679
that was holy

523
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:22,880
and actually seeing those places

524
00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,679
actually

525
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destroyed as a result like after that

526
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,760
literally taken down

527
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,440
you realize this can be done and this is

528
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,039
what we're here to do we are literally

529
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:32,880
here to transmute to take that whole

530
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,840
that that frequency and transform it

531
00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:37,760
with a state of of

532
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:40,080
seeing it engaging it

533
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,720
loving love putting love for for

534
00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:44,080
especially for the victims and for those

535
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:45,520
that have been harmed

536
00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,480
and

537
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:48,640
raising the vibration

538
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:52,000
to totally get that i i would suggest

539
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:54,799
that there's multiple ways to transmute

540
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,799
you know and truth-seeking truth-telling

541
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,480
which is a big part of what you're all

542
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:02,880
about is a way of doing that waking

543
00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,160
people up or making it possible for

544
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,320
people to wake up in a certain way is a

545
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,559
way of transmuting you know we both had

546
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:13,440
a chance to interview annika lucas who i

547
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:15,919
think is quite an amazing person

548
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,400
just to remind everyone you know sold

549
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:21,120
into a satanic cult at six years old by

550
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,240
her mother so just full stop process

551
00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:26,559
that what does that mean

552
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:28,799
you know is

553
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:32,080
taken to these mansions where as a

554
00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:35,360
young child that young is in this room

555
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,400
where one after another of these rich i

556
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:40,480
hate the term elites but these people

557
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,029
very very high level political people of

558
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,960
various countries around europe come in

559
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:51,039
and rape this girl and

560
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,480
what you mentioned to me and you can

561
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,720
tell me about your interview with her is

562
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,120
looking to into their eyes

563
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,440
and seeing the little child in there

564
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:01,520
seeing the little boy and she says she

565
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:04,720
wasn't even like aware of it like on a

566
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,760
conscious level but she was aware of it

567
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:10,320
she was aware of i think this is what

568
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,080
you're getting at you know

569
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:15,120
their pain their connection but she

570
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,559
still is

571
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:18,640
a truth-teller of

572
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,520
the horror that went on and then she

573
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:23,440
goes on and is now

574
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,320
doing

575
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:25,679
yoga

576
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:31,440
imprisoned in new york which is her way

577
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:34,480
of kind of bringing that light about

578
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,200
so

579
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:37,120
talk for a minute about the balancing

580
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,640
between

581
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:40,159
you know the hard process of

582
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,919
truth-telling a lot of people don't want

583
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:43,919
to hear annika's story don't want to

584
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:46,000
hear about the deutro thing you know

585
00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:47,840
they killed how many people over that

586
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:50,640
detroit case they like murdered anyone

587
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:52,960
who was even close to it

588
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:53,919
and then

589
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,480
you know getting on with life as best

590
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,960
you can in doing it i mean

591
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,679
there's a lot there to unpack but tell

592
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:03,679
me what your thoughts are

593
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,320
yes one of the darkest episodes is uh i

594
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:08,559
didn't interview annika lucas i used her

595
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,120
interviews with sean atwood and also uh

596
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,679
her ted talk interviews as uh for within

597
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,840
the docu-series the best-kept secret so

598
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,159
to help illuminate that story and how

599
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:20,640
again to give people a an understanding

600
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:23,679
of how dark this this this world is uh

601
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:24,400
the

602
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,520
true case

603
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,360
probably connects to her story you know

604
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,600
it would it would be a similar network

605
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,960
that would connect to true because he

606
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,960
basically was the fall guy

607
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,760
for

608
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,679
these very high level pedophiles that

609
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,679
were you know and also murdering you

610
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:39,520
know raping and murdering kids as well

611
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,320
so

612
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:41,600
um

613
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,880
you know they needed someone to take a

614
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,480
fall for it and the truth that was the

615
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,400
guy so

616
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,760
as far as

617
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,600
what you're saying is looking at these

618
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,200
things and storytelling this is why i've

619
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,120
always been interested by storytelling

620
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,520
as a spiritual it's always always called

621
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,480
like a psycho spiritual warfare right

622
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,480
if you really want to

623
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,320
transform you have to you have to be

624
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,760
transformed if you want to transform

625
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:04,880
things you have to be transformed you

626
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,200
have to go you have to start you can't

627
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,120
start a story at the same place that you

628
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,880
end it right that's what i love about

629
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,480
storytelling it's like you begin a story

630
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:14,159
with a certain understanding and you

631
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,440
have to go through the process and you

632
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,799
have to deepen and you have to realize

633
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:17,760
like

634
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:19,760
exactly there there is this you know

635
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,720
this dance of shadow and light and

636
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,880
there's a deep an ability to deepen and

637
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,400
hold empathy

638
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:27,600
you know this is why the greatest

639
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,480
stories you can understand at least

640
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,240
the the villain right you can at least

641
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:34,400
under maybe at least get a sense

642
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,919
even a sociopath you can perhaps

643
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:37,280
understand where they're coming from

644
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,640
what their intentions are what their

645
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:40,960
goals are what's blocking them

646
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:42,640
ultimately

647
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,799
what we get in terms of

648
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:46,320
you know satanism it's like people

649
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,600
oftentimes just

650
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,600
satanism becomes a block in their mind

651
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,600
it's like either oh that's laughable

652
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,039
that's silly

653
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,679
or it's you know oh

654
00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:57,919
you know these people are you know

655
00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,919
whatever vision you have or

656
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:02,000
illustration you have but i try to say

657
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,039
look

658
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,120
materialism is satanic

659
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,720
if you if you if you worship the

660
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,559
material realm if you are stuck in ego

661
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,799
if your only ambition is

662
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,000
acquisition

663
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,679
right and gain

664
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:15,440
right and and ultimately it's that the

665
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:18,080
reptilian brain at the root that for so

666
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,360
long has been

667
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:22,400
stuck in this pattern of

668
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,679
fear

669
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,799
acquisition i'm afraid i need to gobble

670
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,799
something up i need to strike first you

671
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,520
know right cobra kai strike first strike

672
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:34,080
hard no mercy the the reptilian brain

673
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,120
that

674
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,080
is is just looking to basically a a

675
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,039
satiate itself and protect itself and

676
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,840
um can't have this deeper faith

677
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,520
in

678
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,919
what the spirit that

679
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,159
has brought this into existence that

680
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,000
carries us through this the darkest of

681
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,000
times as well as the la the best of

682
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:56,880
times that trusting in that spirit right

683
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,600
this is the fundamental battle

684
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:01,360
and it doesn't matter what religion you

685
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,880
want to be called or what you know what

686
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,960
your faith is it's just do you have it

687
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,000
or not and this is always what's

688
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,240
interested me this is why i've

689
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,559
i've often times pushed against

690
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,640
you know religious doctrines and dogmas

691
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,000
because i realize people are are

692
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,840
oftentimes just as brainwashed within

693
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,360
their religion

694
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:19,120
as you know people are now brainwashed

695
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:22,080
by the science it's like this is the way

696
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:23,600
this is the only way and it's like no

697
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,799
it's not the only way the way is faith

698
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,559
do you actually have faith are you

699
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,480
actually here with faith and trust in

700
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,960
this higher power that's guiding this

701
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,240
process and are you willing to go

702
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,240
through this journey and experience it

703
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:38,240
and actually feel it and actually see

704
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,760
and look in the face of these things

705
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:41,039
that are evil and dark and can you

706
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,480
actually find forgiveness because that

707
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,240
is the christed spirit

708
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:46,320
can you actually hold even the most evil

709
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,360
beings

710
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,720
and actually if but if we could all just

711
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,919
look at them and this is what's so

712
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,880
interesting

713
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,799
if we could all just look

714
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:54,320
at the klaus schwab of the world and put

715
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,440
everyone put their attention in their

716
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,600
eyeballs on the cloud schwab

717
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,679
and actually said look

718
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,960
what's going on with you we want to

719
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,559
actually have a session this is this

720
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,919
would be a shamanic experience this is

721
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:05,120
actually how you start to solve real

722
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:06,400
world problems you have to get back to

723
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,240
shamanic tribal conceptions of

724
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,640
holding space simultaneously putting

725
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,320
people putting pressure putting pressure

726
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:16,000
even just energetically on people saying

727
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,360
we're looking at you now or bill gates

728
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,799
or whatever you know

729
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,559
what is what is going on with you what's

730
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,679
going on in your reality what are you

731
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,880
trying to achieve

732
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,640
you know what's your emotional state

733
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,080
like starting to actually get this guy

734
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:28,000
to open up and realize man you're

735
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,360
traumatized you're trying to control

736
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,279
others because you're in trauma yourself

737
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,320
let's have a let's have a giant

738
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,240
session here you know a group

739
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,159
session of gla you know of global

740
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,760
importance on these so-called elites

741
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,600
self-proclaimed elites

742
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:43,360
who want who want to say they have power

743
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,400
over others

744
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,679
and say okay first of all can you

745
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,760
actually first of all have a session

746
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,159
where the planet is looking at you

747
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,360
and you're going to open up about who

748
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,360
you are and what your fears are and what

749
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:55,279
your goals are

750
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,559
you can't be a leader you can't be a

751
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,159
leader from the shadows

752
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,000
you can't be a leader from you know

753
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,840
who's trying to manipulate others and

754
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,840
tell us what to do who are you just who

755
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,840
are you who is this person that we put

756
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:08,320
in power who is justin trudeau

757
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,760
who is biden

758
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,960
no one knows that this is the problem

759
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,880
with our planet we are giving away power

760
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,799
people we don't even know who they are

761
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:16,159
and you start to look you start to get

762
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:17,360
stories coming out you start to realize

763
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:18,799
man these people are probably

764
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:19,919
have probably done some pretty

765
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,440
horrendous things but we are

766
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,799
surrendering power people we don't even

767
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,360
know who they are would you let in your

768
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,880
own home would you let your would you if

769
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:28,400
you had a father you didn't even know

770
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,440
what you know you didn't know your

771
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,520
father but you let him run your home

772
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,480
no

773
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:34,159
why don't we give our power to people to

774
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,600
run our lives don't even know the first

775
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:37,360
thing about them

776
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:38,640
this is our insanity this is our

777
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,600
collective insanity

778
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,039
i'm with you on so many of those points

779
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,120
but there's so many different angles to

780
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,880
look at it and so many different jumping

781
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:48,320
off points you know one of the things

782
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,600
also i just heard in this interview

783
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,520
recently and it really was

784
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,360
excellent and it was kind of a quirky

785
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:54,720
interview but

786
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:55,520
it's

787
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,640
that we all have

788
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,799
and that's what you said sean i'm just

789
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,679
this is

790
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,159
rehashing what you said and and you

791
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,240
brought it down to just a really

792
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:08,640
personal level that we can all relate to

793
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:09,760
is like

794
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,640
hey

795
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,679
i got power and control issues

796
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,640
i look at my family i look at my wife i

797
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:18,799
have power and control issues i look at

798
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:21,760
my children i got power and control

799
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,039
issues i want them to be a certain way

800
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,799
is it really so hard for us to

801
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:28,159
understand

802
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,600
how that extends to people who have

803
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:34,960
you know just enormous enormous power

804
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,520
and how our culture is telling them

805
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:39,279
they're supposed to

806
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,880
enact that power i mean like uh

807
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,039
bill gates is a is a tragic figure i

808
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,960
mean you just look at him and he's just

809
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,960
a tragic figure he'd be in some

810
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,520
shakespearean play look into his eyes i

811
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:52,799
mean it just

812
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,360
that's not a a a good soul there you

813
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:56,640
know but

814
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,880
what has his life been which is kind of

815
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:00,640
what you're alluding to but also from a

816
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,039
power standpoint he had more money than

817
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,679
he could ever spend when he was

818
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,559
23 years old and he was a self-made man

819
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:10,240
too he could say even though he came

820
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,440
from a

821
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,440
nice family anymore obviously but he

822
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,360
made it every step of the way he makes

823
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:17,039
more and the question you know it's like

824
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,399
i had this conversation recently by the

825
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,919
way about gates with this guy that said

826
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:21,919
oh i like gates you know i he does

827
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,679
business with him or what not and i say

828
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,600
okay why what's he about what's he

829
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,720
trying why is he trying to control your

830
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,840
body oh he's not trying to control it

831
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:31,120
but he's trying to help the planet you

832
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,559
know he's done more for the planet than

833
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,919
anybody

834
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:35,039
say uh-huh

835
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:36,399
so sticking sticking a needle in

836
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:37,520
everybody is what is really going to

837
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,399
help

838
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,919
is that really is that really what's go

839
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,520
what's going to help people who are

840
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,480
dealing with

841
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,880
you name it irrigation issues farm you

842
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,000
know uh

843
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,840
standards of living the lack of energy

844
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,279
and you know not just clean water but

845
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:51,360
lack of energy to actually power their

846
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,640
you know a normal

847
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,159
modern let's say a modern middle-class

848
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,919
standard of living is he actually

849
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,679
looking to to to

850
00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,159
raise the center of living in africa

851
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,679
it's like what are they talking about

852
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,080
you can just but sean even that response

853
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,840
is switching over again into the

854
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,320
material in the material world right

855
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,600
because when you switch into the

856
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,600
spiritual realm like you talk about so

857
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,120
many times you're like

858
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,360
why would i think that it is

859
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,000
that is somehow my job to do anything

860
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,320
other than to bring this light forward

861
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,399
you know like it doesn't take much to

862
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,240
get to an understanding of spirituality

863
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,640
like hey i'm supposed to fill the hole

864
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:28,559
with light wherever i find the hole i'm

865
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,919
supposed to fill it with light and i'm

866
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,760
going to run across a lot of these

867
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,960
people who

868
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,559
they got the hole and the only way they

869
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,039
found to fill it is with darkness that's

870
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,679
tragic that's too bad i can try and help

871
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,200
you but i'm trying to help everybody

872
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:42,799
because i'm just about the light kind of

873
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:45,919
thing so in that sense i i don't worry

874
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,399
about gates you know and what is it it's

875
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,559
just that he's a pathetic kind of

876
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,559
doesn't look like he's it looks like his

877
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,640
hole is not filled with light to me kind

878
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:55,760
of thing

879
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:56,960
no

880
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,600
and there are very few that are

881
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,520
well this is this is the this is like

882
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,120
this is the nature of our reality that

883
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,279
we have right now it's that

884
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:09,440
we

885
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,480
how do you say

886
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,760
most people are just in it for

887
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:13,520
themselves

888
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,240
it doesn't matter left right center

889
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,919
i mean you really look at the quality of

890
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,600
leadership

891
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,279
it's it's not the people that there are

892
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,559
a few people that are out there that are

893
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,799
actually holding an anchor of

894
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,640
faith hey i'm here with a faith and a

895
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,600
higher power this is not about me

896
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,840
this is about what i'm here to serve

897
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:33,360
right

898
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,720
there's very few like that but i think

899
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,679
that the revolution and the

900
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,039
transformation comes from from the

901
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,320
masses

902
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,080
it comes from the millions of people

903
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,799
waking up and taking their power back

904
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,480
i think that's really we don't so in a

905
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,799
sense we become the leaders those of us

906
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,559
that survive this transition phase

907
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,640
become the leaders and it's more of a

908
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:51,760
collective leadership because it's

909
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,240
reciprocity based so it's no longer

910
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,559
about power see i always said in the old

911
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,559
since i was young i said

912
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,960
machiavelli is wrong it's not it's not

913
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,440
fear power is not in fear

914
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,120
power's in love because the moment if

915
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,799
someone fears you

916
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,080
the moment you're weak you end up like

917
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:10,000
harvey weinstein

918
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,559
right everyone stabs you

919
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,240
the moment you're weak they turn on you

920
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:16,159
they drop you caesar

921
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:17,919
when you're when you're when you well

922
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:20,080
caesar whether or not he was weak that's

923
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,200
you know that's a different i think that

924
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,120
was just that was a mass conspiracy but

925
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,000
the but the point is that

926
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,679
love is power

927
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,600
because when you're weak

928
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,760
people comfort you

929
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:33,519
that's where power is

930
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,919
and that's why it's power is about love

931
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,760
it's about reciprocity

932
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,320
because i know you know listen hey you

933
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,600
you know if i've got all this wealth

934
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,120
like gates and people are sucking at my

935
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:44,799
kneecaps and i can do whatever i want as

936
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,360
long as that wealth is there right

937
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,799
if the guy didn't have that wealth who

938
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,919
would be there

939
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:52,559
he'd be he'd be he'd be naked

940
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:53,840
so that's the truth that's the true

941
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,840
emperors with no clothes you see it's

942
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:58,320
the people that are literally just naked

943
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,600
except for their

944
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,600
their wealth oh okay so you know we're

945
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,440
gonna we're gonna pretend we like you we

946
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:05,120
don't like you naked we only like you

947
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:06,159
with all your

948
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:10,640
if the if they love the emperor he'd be

949
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:13,519
walking naked they would love him anyway

950
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:14,399
and that's

951
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,360
why

952
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,440
the future is going to be

953
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,600
power based in

954
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,760
connection if you love someone hey today

955
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,279
the money is here tomorrow is not here

956
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,360
but guess what if you have

957
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,960
friends and allies

958
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,080
there's always the opportunity to make

959
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,000
money to or make money let's say but

960
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:31,840
make something make something to create

961
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:32,640
money

962
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,519
anything it's what you're creating right

963
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:37,120
you're growing something you're building

964
00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:39,679
a company you're employing employing

965
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:41,919
people you're engaging people like

966
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,279
that's wealth right that brings wealth

967
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:47,519
money itself doesn't mean anything

968
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,720
so a couple of things that have kind of

969
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,200
driven amplified my kind of spiritual

970
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,240
quest is some science parts of it

971
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,559
near-death experience science

972
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,320
i find very compelling

973
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,559
reincarnation science you know the guys

974
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:04,880
at university virginia lots of very

975
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,399
compelling i've heard you touch on

976
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:10,880
the reincarnation thing

977
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,519
how are you processing that in your

978
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:15,600
worldview right now what is that what

979
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,310
which part

980
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:22,960
reincarnation because if you think about

981
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,120
it it just throws everything i mean i

982
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,880
think a lot of people haven't kind of

983
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,559
fully internalized what that means you

984
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,039
know they get hung up on race issues

985
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,600
well there's you're just here now in

986
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:35,760
this or they get hung up on privilege

987
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,120
issues i've heard you talk about

988
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,120
privilege it's like hey man

989
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,279
i don't know why you were thrown in this

990
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,519
situation that this is a situation it's

991
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,080
not a privilege it's just where you

992
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,880
wound up and the next time around

993
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,200
again i'm a science guy

994
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:53,440
science would suggest that you will

995
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,279
experience multiple

996
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,279
ones of these little actor things and

997
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,600
they won't all look the same to you what

998
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:01,919
does that mean and near-death experience

999
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:04,720
science suggests that you will be the

1000
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:08,240
judge of your deeds you will

1001
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,359
feel like gosh i could have done

1002
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,119
more you know kind of thing or i

1003
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,679
shouldn't well you get where i'm going

1004
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,520
i'm very interested by the idea that

1005
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,679
consciousness is actually growing and

1006
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,280
expanding

1007
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:24,000
i'm really interested by the idea that

1008
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:25,359
there

1009
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:31,200
that people have experienced

1010
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,359
and we are approaching a different uh

1011
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,599
how do you say

1012
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,359
we know for example like you know this

1013
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:40,159
the brain inhibits our our experience

1014
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,679
our experience

1015
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:42,960
that's why when people take certain

1016
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:45,440
psychedelic drugs it actually starts to

1017
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,240
shut

1018
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,679
actually like it basically inhibits the

1019
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,599
filters yeah exactly

1020
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,440
it turns off those blocks

1021
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,800
and all of a sudden we start to realize

1022
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,119
oh my god i'm connected to everything so

1023
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,960
our consciousness is limited

1024
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,560
there's no way you can tell me that our

1025
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,720
consciousness is not limited but

1026
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:05,119
the question of how limited it is is a

1027
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,880
very interesting thing i actually wonder

1028
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,920
that

1029
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,480
human history is the design of the

1030
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,880
expansion of consciousness

1031
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,960
and as the consciousness expands through

1032
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,560
human history you actually get these

1033
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:20,400
manifestations of it in the physical

1034
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,359
form

1035
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,000
like you know the ability now to have

1036
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,400
instant communication with people

1037
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,880
across the planet right

1038
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,320
these are all expressions these are

1039
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:32,400
physical expressions of the spiritual

1040
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,359
nature of consciousness expanding

1041
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,750
our consciousness how do you say

1042
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,839
whatever i am

1043
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,680
is that sliver of consciousness that

1044
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,920
comes through this form

1045
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,880
and

1046
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:49,520
yes it is is connected to a soul the

1047
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,640
soul is not necessarily

1048
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,040
necessarily connected to a race

1049
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,359
but there are greater

1050
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,839
i think racial

1051
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,280
implications

1052
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,920
to soul groups i do i do ten i do tend

1053
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,960
to see certain qualities and certain um

1054
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:09,680
certain tendencies right

1055
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,040
based on certain lineages but

1056
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,200
well hold on before you say something

1057
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,359
that i don't follow up on how do you

1058
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:19,280
understand that how do you understand

1059
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:20,640
that

1060
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,589
races come from different areas right

1061
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,280
if we're looking at okay

1062
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,359
i look at it like this i look at

1063
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:33,839
the human race as

1064
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:36,079
one race so race is maybe not the right

1065
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:37,119
word

1066
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:38,480
um

1067
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,920
but there are different groups right

1068
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:41,520
there's different

1069
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:44,320
question is where we star seeded which i

1070
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,839
tend to believe that we we're star

1071
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,280
seeded that's why you have these

1072
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,200
differences of why

1073
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:51,680
you know why is there why is there white

1074
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,640
black

1075
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,200
you know yellow asian so-called you know

1076
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,960
more like you know

1077
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:59,040
the so-called red red man but i think

1078
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:00,400
maybe

1079
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,240
the land bridge to the americas but

1080
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:05,680
still having these different the

1081
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:07,040
polynesians having these different

1082
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,190
you know are we just evolved from one

1083
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:15,520
being or are we seated

1084
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,640
from

1085
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,720
different

1086
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,160
iterations

1087
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:21,599
because i don't believe in i don't

1088
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:24,560
believe in darwinian evolution i don't

1089
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:27,440
tend to believe that the monkey

1090
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,480
became

1091
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,839
conscious

1092
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,920
in the form of a human

1093
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,520
i or you know some kind of evolution in

1094
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,880
consciousness i believe that there was

1095
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,640
something that's that that murder that

1096
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,119
connected us in a divine way kind of

1097
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,200
like the michelangelo painting that

1098
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,079
allowed us to have this consciousness

1099
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,240
right at a different level than any

1100
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:48,000
other animal on the planet

1101
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:49,040
so

1102
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:50,640
when i see that we have different you

1103
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,359
know

1104
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,920
different racial groups let's say

1105
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,160
of the human race then you can say that

1106
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,000
there are uh that we come from different

1107
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,599
potentially different different star

1108
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,520
systems or seedings

1109
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:03,440
and um

1110
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,640
and we obviously matriculate from

1111
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,320
different parts of the planet

1112
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:08,160
right so it leads it lends itself to

1113
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:09,200
different

1114
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,560
conditions the same way that you would

1115
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,079
argue between like

1116
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:13,440
you know why are the mediterranean

1117
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,480
qualities

1118
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:16,320
different than the nordic you know

1119
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,599
people have been saying this for 10 you

1120
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,440
know for for decades now for centuries

1121
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:20,720
right that the mediterranean peoples

1122
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,960
tend to be warmer they tend to be a bit

1123
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:25,200
more expressive and free and the nordic

1124
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,589
stiff a little bit like stiffer colder

1125
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:33,119
right um

1126
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:34,400
let me get out there and shovel that

1127
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,119
snow

1128
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,720
right maybe a little bit more warlike

1129
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,960
compared to the mediterranean culture so

1130
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,079
there's you know but that's not

1131
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,839
necessarily true just there's this

1132
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,599
different quality that's why i'm talking

1133
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,520
about like different qualities based on

1134
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:47,839
lineages perhaps based on locations

1135
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,320
perhaps based on traditions things like

1136
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:51,839
this sure

1137
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,680
now you you realize how that's going to

1138
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:55,680
be construed as incredibly racist to a

1139
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,040
lot of people but

1140
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,800
who cares let's get beyond that to the

1141
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,240
level two and level three because you're

1142
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,160
bringing up some other interesting stuff

1143
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,280
the star seeding stuff gets into the

1144
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,320
whole

1145
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,280
ufo et contact which i constantly think

1146
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:10,800
if that's not on the table then you're

1147
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:13,680
not really even talking about this stuff

1148
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,960
one of the things i really appreciate

1149
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:16,800
again about your work is that's right

1150
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,280
there that's right in the center of it

1151
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,359
too it has to say we have to factor that

1152
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:23,040
in just like we have to factor in

1153
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,560
religion and that's why we have to put

1154
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,640
quotes around satanic it's not a

1155
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,119
christian thing it's a

1156
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:31,119
light versus dark thing but i think the

1157
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,720
tricky thing about race is again i look

1158
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,480
at the science you know the near-death

1159
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,320
experience science i think is compelling

1160
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,960
stuff the between lives stuff is

1161
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:43,520
compelling you know michael newton does

1162
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:44,320
this

1163
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:45,599
you know michael newton's story is

1164
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,880
really interesting he's the guy who did

1165
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,280
the past life regressions he

1166
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,640
his story is interesting because he's

1167
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,640
just a hypnotherapist and he has

1168
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,079
somebody come in you know they're afraid

1169
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,240
of spiders and he goes okay i want you

1170
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:58,400
to go back and remember oh yeah i was

1171
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,680
two years old there was a spider

1172
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:01,520
crawling on my face my mom got all

1173
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,680
freaked out okay there you go that's why

1174
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,920
you're afraid of spiders come out of the

1175
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,680
come out of the trance you know oh gosh

1176
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,359
i'm not afraid of spiders anymore so one

1177
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:11,359
day he's doing this

1178
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,480
hypnosis session with somebody and boom

1179
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:16,800
the guy goes i'm on a battlefield i have

1180
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,920
a sword you know and he goes okay and he

1181
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,400
happens to be newton happens to be

1182
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,800
a history buff so he starts he said it's

1183
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:26,720
a little bit outside of you know kind of

1184
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,200
professional ethics but i go what emblem

1185
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:31,200
is he wearing on his shoulder all this

1186
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,800
kind of stuff he gets all this details

1187
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,560
and he traces it down and he finds the

1188
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,400
guy and it sends him on this whole thing

1189
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,440
of this past life thing is real and then

1190
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:41,520
what it sends him into is this stuff

1191
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:44,800
about between lives and about being in a

1192
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,079
soul group and deciding where you go and

1193
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,760
it would kind of fit with what you're

1194
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,800
saying

1195
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,359
but there's always the outlier there's

1196
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,280
the one from a different soul group that

1197
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:58,000
says hey i want to jump into your stream

1198
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,839
over here which would make a ton of

1199
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,599
sense why wouldn't it and then that

1200
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,839
again throws the whole racist thing out

1201
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,280
of it it's like yeah you got your group

1202
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:06,880
here and you're kind of marching along

1203
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,960
and evolving your consciousness but that

1204
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,560
doesn't mean it's a it's a very

1205
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:12,800
free-flowing thing you can bring in

1206
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,960
anyone from a different group

1207
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,800
or from a different as people talk about

1208
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,960
from a different planet from a different

1209
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:21,280
galaxy and all the rest of that so and

1210
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,480
then the other thing that i think just

1211
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,480
blows away with our kind of concrete

1212
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,960
materialistic evidence is the 23andme

1213
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:28,400
thing right so you have all these

1214
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:29,839
families that we're a proud world

1215
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,280
bloodline and stuff

1216
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,079
and then you find out you know the one

1217
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,760
kid there that always looked a little

1218
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,000
different you know he doesn't exactly

1219
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,560
come from the same lineage but we no one

1220
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,160
knew that that was a deep dark secret in

1221
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,400
the family but we always treated him or

1222
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,160
her like that and we treat it you know

1223
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,480
what i mean so it's just i agree with

1224
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,839
what you're saying i think it makes it

1225
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,839
does make sense but the larger picture

1226
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,359
is it's just kind of more of a

1227
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,160
free-for-all in terms of how these souls

1228
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,640
travel through this huge infinite

1229
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,200
consciousness thing that we have do you

1230
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,240
have any thoughts on that whole thing

1231
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:07,040
it's it's it's it's so big it's so

1232
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,560
complex right this i think you know the

1233
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:10,240
seating of the human race

1234
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,829
the various groups right because i mean

1235
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,839
look where does the rh negative come

1236
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:19,359
from isn't this one of the great

1237
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,960
mysteries that i'm sure you looked at

1238
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,720
all right the the the negative rhesus

1239
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,480
where there's no rhesus monkey in its

1240
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,480
lineage and you know people with rh

1241
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,800
negative they they they claim to have

1242
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,960
different abilities oftentimes they say

1243
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,079
like they tend to be more like

1244
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:34,160
psychically attuned or things like this

1245
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,359
and not ever obviously there's likely

1246
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:36,960
people psychology people in all groups

1247
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,760
but

1248
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,280
there is something odd about this rh

1249
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,640
negative thing

1250
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,160
so

1251
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:44,000
i don't again i mean the rate

1252
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,680
see

1253
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,079
it's like the most racist thing to me is

1254
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,160
the focus on race right so when you get

1255
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,680
things like you know critical race

1256
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,920
theory or you get various evolutions of

1257
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,839
modern racism where it's like everything

1258
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,520
is about what color your skin is i find

1259
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,960
that more racist than just talking about

1260
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,079
let's say

1261
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,680
look we have lineage

1262
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,400
right and so you know my lineage as far

1263
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,960
as i can you know i can trace you know

1264
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,800
goes back to certain parts it's it's

1265
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,520
north europe it's you know france it's

1266
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,200
uh partly you know

1267
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,960
russian jewish it's

1268
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,040
maybe mongol because we certainly like

1269
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,880
when i did the 23andme we went you know

1270
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,880
we we raised in a lot with like people

1271
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,480
from like turkmenistan and stuff like

1272
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,280
this so um you know so it's like you

1273
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,200
know that's just lineage that's you know

1274
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,440
we know that our dna is informed by

1275
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,359
ancestors you know they say we have

1276
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,359
genetic memory you know sorry our memory

1277
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,280
can be influenced genetically at least

1278
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,839
seven generations or or maybe up to 13

1279
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:41,920
generations i think so the point is that

1280
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,240
it's not like it's not a fallacy to talk

1281
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,079
about you know let's talk about lineages

1282
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,160
it's just i think people get simplified

1283
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,920
with this racial thing you know it's

1284
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,000
like obama's a black man i'm like you

1285
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:54,800
know he's half white i mean it's like so

1286
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,670
and that oh for sure for sure i mean

1287
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,920
this guy was totally you know cia he was

1288
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,359
a total deep state creature but the

1289
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,119
point is that like you know we have this

1290
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,560
illusion of color

1291
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,079
right and i think this is something

1292
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,839
we've really got to get past is like

1293
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,920
just because your color is pigmentation

1294
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,119
i mean they're they're you know as we

1295
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,200
know they're albino you know black

1296
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,440
people who are albino uh you know who

1297
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:19,760
would look whiter than me it's like so

1298
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,240
we gotta get past this notion of color

1299
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,800
lineage is important um just to

1300
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,319
understand where we you know

1301
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,079
to understand you know certain as much

1302
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,760
as we can perhaps certain tendencies or

1303
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,599
certain you know certain things in our

1304
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,280
in our ancestral memory that's working

1305
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:35,280
through us right traumas pains things

1306
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,560
like this

1307
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,760
spiritually you can do a lot of work i

1308
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,839
mean my girlfriend teaches breath work

1309
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,000
uh but in her she has a healing arts

1310
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,440
academy or spill you know spiritual and

1311
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,040
healing arts and breath work is a very

1312
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,200
powerful tool for doing trauma work

1313
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,960
people have memories of things and yeah

1314
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,119
i mean people white people can have

1315
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,280
memories of past lives as you know

1316
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,520
native american or black and vice versa

1317
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,359
i mean why this shouldn't be

1318
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,359
they shouldn't be held as racist like

1319
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:01,520
just to say like hey i i resonate you

1320
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:04,079
know with you know with this person and

1321
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,119
i should be able to say that too i've

1322
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:06,480
been called out racist for saying i

1323
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:08,480
resonate with malcolm x when he said you

1324
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:10,640
know he said this great quote

1325
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:13,359
about you know the media will make the

1326
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:16,400
oppressor look like the the the good guy

1327
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,920
and the oppressed look like the bad guy

1328
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,599
right they'll have you you'll be mixing

1329
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,720
up who's the oppressor and who's the

1330
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,920
oppressed and i'm like i resonate with

1331
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:23,119
that oh you can't say that you're not

1332
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,079
black

1333
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,839
it's like i can resonate with it i can

1334
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,520
resonate with a monkey if i resonate

1335
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,880
with a monkey i mean why can't we

1336
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,960
resonate we are souls that are here to

1337
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:32,720
resonate that's actually our point is to

1338
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,440
stop see they use the vision because the

1339
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:37,920
strongest power is as we know is

1340
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,839
connection we're all you know love it's

1341
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,520
connecting from you know no matter what

1342
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:44,160
your background is it's love we can love

1343
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,760
we can love animals we can love children

1344
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,720
i mean all these things like they've

1345
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,480
perverted pedophilia just means love of

1346
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,359
child

1347
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,880
so they've turned that into into this

1348
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,960
corrupt sexual thing when it should have

1349
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,800
just been no it's it's love of children

1350
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,319
it should not be called you know we

1351
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:57,839
should get love out of that phrase that

1352
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:59,520
should not be anywhere near what's

1353
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,640
happening when people are corrupting

1354
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,960
children so you see they their whole the

1355
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,960
game is and this is the dark side the

1356
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,040
game is turn against

1357
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,880
you know identity politics then any

1358
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:10,400
politics becomes vaccine politics you

1359
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,680
know are you vaccinated you can't be my

1360
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,720
friend if you're not vaccinated you

1361
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,920
can't come in here for that vaccine this

1362
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,920
is how they do it it's just so simple

1363
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,599
because they know the power of of

1364
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,400
connection and love is the most powerful

1365
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,640
force in existence

1366
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,079
you know there's a couple other places i

1367
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,920
want to make sure we touch on and you've

1368
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,839
touched on it a little bit but i want to

1369
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,040
hit it again

1370
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,040
and that's religion

1371
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,119
and again it's like you've lived so many

1372
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,680
lives you know you've gone through

1373
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,680
the whole thing i mean you went over to

1374
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,599
iran and then you got you know oh he's

1375
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,520
muslim that was the you could still find

1376
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:43,200
that out there oh i got to show you this

1377
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,400
because i don't know if this means

1378
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:46,800
anything or not this could be totally

1379
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,440
meaningless but when i go to

1380
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,000
amazon

1381
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,480
sean ollie stone i mean

1382
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,800
i've never seen your name spelled out as

1383
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:59,520
sean olly stone again but with all the

1384
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,359
stuff they tried to

1385
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,440
spin your

1386
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:06,319
openness to looking at you know

1387
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:07,119
other

1388
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,400
traditions

1389
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,640
i gotta believe they're and you're one

1390
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,240
you're not even listed as the leading

1391
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,640
author i'm the thing which the book

1392
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,240
just look at the cover of the book it's

1393
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,560
sean stone new world order and then yeah

1394
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,079
i'm amazing

1395
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:21,839
he's more he's a more prolific author

1396
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,160
than i am so i think there you know it

1397
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,720
helps for promotional purposes i suppose

1398
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,720
no i don't think so it's that they're

1399
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,440
burying sean stone and they're saying

1400
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:33,839
sean ollystone which sends you spinning

1401
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:36,160
and then you go look on wikipedia and oh

1402
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,839
we think he's a muslim and all the rest

1403
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,680
of this here's my point that i want you

1404
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,440
to talk about religion

1405
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,520
it seems like

1406
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:45,760
such an obvious

1407
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:50,559
why would you why would anyone think

1408
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,240
that they need a spiritual intermediary

1409
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,839
you know i have some kind of experience

1410
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,000
with the divine why would i then

1411
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,920
immediately go oh no i can only

1412
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,559
understand it through this guy's book or

1413
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,800
somebody jumps in and says no i'm the

1414
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,040
only means by which you can interpret

1415
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,839
your spiritual experience it seems like

1416
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,680
such a social engineering project from

1417
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,000
the beginning why do we carry it around

1418
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,079
like an anchor on our ass and kind of

1419
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,000
even give it any

1420
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,240
i guess you have to but i don't i mean i

1421
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,480
just don't give it any

1422
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,480
credence in the least i think it had we

1423
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,680
talked a little bit earlier about the

1424
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,119
level of consciousness and where

1425
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,359
consciousness is and i do i think that

1426
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,359
it served it served an important purpose

1427
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:33,599
the same way that this any any state any

1428
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,480
government has served its purposes right

1429
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,720
there's certain levels of

1430
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,760
conduct

1431
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,000
that are put into you know you name it

1432
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,079
from the ten commandments forward right

1433
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,079
certain codes of conduct

1434
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:48,480
and religion is served in that way to

1435
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,520
help people find codes of conduct

1436
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,040
so

1437
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,480
you could say is it is it uh

1438
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:58,079
is it skeptical as far as like the

1439
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,599
goodness of humans does it look at

1440
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,440
humans as you know basically sort of

1441
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,520
these things that need to be ordered and

1442
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,680
controlled to some extent yes social

1443
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:07,200
engineering

1444
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:09,359
has played a has played its has has had

1445
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:10,559
a purpose

1446
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,400
it ever but their juncture is where you

1447
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,240
get the revolutionary juncture where

1448
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:18,240
consciousness is expanding

1449
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,040
right

1450
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,200
and the limitation of these

1451
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,480
ordering structures can no longer

1452
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,319
serve that i think with these religious

1453
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:27,839
texts what's always been interesting to

1454
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:28,720
me

1455
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:31,280
is that you do have these gnostic

1456
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,400
traditions

1457
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,480
uh that are directly more called you

1458
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,720
know gnosis is the concept of

1459
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,640
more direct knowledge of god

1460
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,480
connection to source that's within the

1461
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:43,040
islamic realm it's more known as sufism

1462
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,240
and there's obviously other sex but

1463
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,040
sufism is a very prominent one

1464
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,280
within judaism there's kabbalah and

1465
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,720
things like this

1466
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,400
every religion essentially has that that

1467
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,480
more gnostic tradition

1468
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,119
and the point being yes there's a lot of

1469
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,119
there's a lot of truth in these texts

1470
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,880
there's a lot of truth in the the

1471
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,480
biblical texts you know there's a lot of

1472
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,160
truth in the in the in the in the

1473
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:05,680
writing in the right writings of the new

1474
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,640
testament which we attribute to christ

1475
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:10,240
where they really came from

1476
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:12,559
you know there are written 80 years

1477
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,520
later

1478
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,440
it's a little bit difficult to know you

1479
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:17,680
know sorry 80 it's 80 a.d or after

1480
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:19,119
thereafter so it's a little 50 years

1481
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,400
after the death so-called so it's a

1482
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,240
little difficult to know how real these

1483
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,599
things are but there's still truth in

1484
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:25,760
them same with the quran many truths in

1485
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,720
them many powerful expressions so i've

1486
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,160
always been interested by the more

1487
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,480
gnostic interpretations that doesn't

1488
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:34,800
mean that i discount the power and the

1489
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,280
tool of the the teachers or the the

1490
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:40,160
spiritual leaders that came forward um

1491
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:40,880
but

1492
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,760
it's ultimately it's these are

1493
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,160
these are guides and you know there are

1494
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:48,400
ways for you to then say hey there

1495
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:49,599
should be as in islam they say there

1496
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,480
should be no compulsion in religion

1497
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,400
so why is there compulsion

1498
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,480
it's not the religion itself it's the

1499
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,880
people using it the same with any you

1500
00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:00,000
know look what's happening in our

1501
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:02,000
country right now you know that we have

1502
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,520
a constitution

1503
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,520
do people follow it are people

1504
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,319
acknowledging the constitution

1505
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,079
are they respecting it

1506
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,520
so you know would you say oh the

1507
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,720
founders were wrong to give us a

1508
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,319
constitution no

1509
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,079
it was it was it was a moment in time

1510
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,920
and there were very important truths in

1511
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,119
it thankfully that trent i think that

1512
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:21,040
will stand the test of time but people

1513
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,400
will abuse it

1514
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,480
and that's just that's the danger of of

1515
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:26,319
giving people authority over you in

1516
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,760
general so it doesn't matter if it's

1517
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:29,359
religion politics

1518
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:30,640
going back to what i said earlier you

1519
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,640
know why are we empowering people

1520
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,839
authority over us we don't even know who

1521
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,599
these people are at a deep level at a

1522
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:37,280
spiritual level who is this person does

1523
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,640
this person come from the light are they

1524
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,400
actually have they worked through their

1525
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,839
their traumas and their issues of

1526
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,160
control have they you know they are they

1527
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,599
are they on a healing journey or are

1528
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,319
they on a power trip

1529
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,319
so you brought up the topic of politics

1530
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,920
and that's another thing that i wanted

1531
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,599
to talk about

1532
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:56,000
i don't i don't know how to process

1533
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:56,960
uh

1534
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,839
politics to me the lessons learned

1535
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,599
suggest that it's

1536
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,440
some kind of theatrical play that we

1537
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:06,000
don't even understand the beginnings of

1538
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,599
i've heard you talk about trump i don't

1539
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,680
know how to process trump i mean trump

1540
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,760
is still saying gee the vaccine the

1541
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:14,480
vaccine he's leading he's saying

1542
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,960
he's saying uh joe biden isn't sticking

1543
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,559
to the plan on the vaccine let me back

1544
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,440
in there so i can do it i i don't know

1545
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:23,920
how anything he could possibly say after

1546
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:26,720
that is credible obviously they they

1547
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,839
they so blatantly uh rigged the election

1548
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:31,599
which is really kind of the story there

1549
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,400
is

1550
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,160
we know that the elections are rigged

1551
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:36,400
but this one seemed to be so obviously

1552
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,240
rigged but i come back to i don't want

1553
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,200
to digress if if trump isn't going to

1554
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,680
come clean on fauci

1555
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,280
if he isn't going to come clean on the

1556
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,440
vaccine then why would we go through

1557
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,800
another

1558
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,800
round of him claiming that he's just

1559
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,040
about ready to drain the swamp kind of

1560
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,960
thing does that have any credibility to

1561
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,670
i think when trump said that he was in

1562
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,359
favor of the vaccine there's there's two

1563
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:03,119
factors at work one

1564
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,960
he's that generation

1565
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:07,280
my father most a lot of these boomers i

1566
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:08,000
know

1567
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,200
they all

1568
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,960
they believe in the vaccines

1569
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,880
that's their belief they know and it's

1570
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,559
like you can't argue this you can't

1571
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,400
argue them away from it that's just

1572
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,839
there they've bought in they've bought

1573
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:19,599
in since the days of the polio vaccine

1574
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,400
which

1575
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:22,559
gave people sr40

1576
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,680
disease this disease monkey disease but

1577
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:26,480
hey

1578
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,680
it's saved live so-called

1579
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,910
so on that level trump's going to

1580
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,599
believe in the vaccinations i don't

1581
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,119
think that trump ever

1582
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:39,440
would have said mandate it i don't see

1583
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,880
why he would i don't see that as

1584
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,200
his ideology or his politics so when he

1585
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,800
said he's in favor of it what it

1586
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:48,000
actually did was

1587
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:50,000
it took away the media which is really

1588
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,280
the ones

1589
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,200
working with in conjunction with with

1590
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:55,520
fauci's nih working with bill gate you

1591
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,200
know basically backed by bill gates

1592
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,599
let's be honest gates is the major

1593
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,920
player in a lot of this scheme um the

1594
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,319
media's ability to attack him if he said

1595
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,240
he was against the vaccines do you think

1596
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,160
that would actually change the

1597
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:10,319
republicans position no but it would

1598
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,839
make it such that anyone who says i'm

1599
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,040
against the vaccines becomes an

1600
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,440
immediate trump supporter so he saved a

1601
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:18,240
lot of us from that like oh you must

1602
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,680
believe it because trump said it now

1603
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,599
look at the statistics who are the most

1604
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:24,400
people getting the vaccines democrats by

1605
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,440
far

1606
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:27,280
republicans split

1607
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,960
so i don't think that trump really is

1608
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:30,960
the difference between people getting a

1609
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,520
vax or not but it takes away that's why

1610
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,319
politics is literally

1611
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,559
wwe entertainment like there is a level

1612
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,720
of like hey you know

1613
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,400
the you know we can't turn trump the

1614
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,240
media can't turn trump into the bad guy

1615
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,240
on the vaccine issue which and also

1616
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,000
anyone who's against the vaccines would

1617
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:50,079
become a bad guy because we're pro-trump

1618
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,680
it's like so they've already labeled us

1619
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,680
anti-vaxxers but now you know don't

1620
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,280
don't muddle the water by saying that

1621
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,440
you know trump's in favor of it so you

1622
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,599
must be you know following trump on this

1623
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:01,520
i think that was fine as far as i'm

1624
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,880
concerned because it doesn't really

1625
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,119
matter what matters is why did they rig

1626
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,839
the election why do they need them out

1627
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,599
because they couldn't have pushed this

1628
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,440
this crazy insane policy that they're

1629
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:13,200
doing and people i think are waking up

1630
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:14,799
looking around going what the hell you

1631
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,799
open the borders you're flooding us you

1632
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:18,960
know covet cases have completely gone

1633
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,280
you know gotten worse since the vaccine

1634
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,200
roll out

1635
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,960
people you know people are still getting

1636
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,880
it and dying i mean everything that you

1637
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,640
could talk about as far as the afghan

1638
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,400
withdrawal the potential war with

1639
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:33,200
ukraine uh the inflation the supply

1640
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:34,640
chain issues you can't look here and go

1641
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,160
this is a great this is a good

1642
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,319
presidency this is like things are more

1643
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,480
divisive since these guys who came in

1644
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,839
just like trudeau you know coming in

1645
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,839
promising unity and becoming more

1646
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,680
divisive so actually i think

1647
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,720
hey they kind of played their hand with

1648
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,119
this election thing and actually

1649
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,720
have turned more people against them in

1650
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:54,799
a way

1651
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:57,280
maybe you know but to me that just seems

1652
00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:00,160
like a standard standard right playbook

1653
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:02,079
open the playbook that's the first page

1654
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,319
is divide and rule you know divide

1655
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,720
divide divide no matter how how it looks

1656
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,720
if it's divisive it's good

1657
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,559
but here's i guess the the rub i have

1658
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,480
and this is where we'll kind of maybe

1659
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,079
wrap it up you're very generous with

1660
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,079
your time

1661
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:18,559
as a truth seeker

1662
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:21,520
don't we run the risk of

1663
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,400
playing that wwe game in a way that we

1664
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:26,240
shouldn't play it isn't it really just

1665
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,520
about saying

1666
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:29,040
you know like i love what you just said

1667
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:30,559
about trump being of a different

1668
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,920
generation and you can kind of

1669
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,760
understand it as you kind of understand

1670
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,520
your dad and you know you get together

1671
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,040
at thanksgiving you're like man i'm not

1672
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:39,200
going there you know we've gone there a

1673
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,799
hundred times i'm just not gonna do it

1674
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,680
again

1675
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,880
i get that

1676
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:45,359
but when we enter the realm of that guy

1677
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,640
being

1678
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,799
the leader that you talked about then

1679
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,559
don't we just have to say nah that's

1680
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,160
just [\h__\h] you just can't you can't

1681
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,319
do that you gotta own you gotta own five

1682
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,160
cheese a liar you gotta own that it's a

1683
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,799
bio weapon you got to own all that stuff

1684
00:57:03,510 --> 00:56:59,760
or

1685
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,520
doesn't mean i have a any other option

1686
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:05,920
because i don't but i can't go forward

1687
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,119
because i can only go forward with the

1688
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,589
i would never expect

1689
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:12,960
a homeless man to give me a hundred

1690
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,870
i don't expect people to give me what

1691
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:20,240
they can't give or do what they can what

1692
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,680
they're not able to do

1693
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,599
when trump came in what i loved was that

1694
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:26,240
it was it was a sign that the system was

1695
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,599
was was

1696
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:29,839
collapsing and essentially that this was

1697
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:30,720
the

1698
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:31,920
king kong

1699
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,000
element of

1700
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,240
bring this thing down

1701
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,000
that's what this is about this is about

1702
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:40,240
devolution the beginning of the year i

1703
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,839
said listen we got to bring the power

1704
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,119
back what was given to us in the

1705
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:45,119
constitution this the rights not given

1706
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,640
enumerated directly for the federal

1707
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,480
government are reserved to the people

1708
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:50,640
the states and the people they're in

1709
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:53,119
that's the bill of rights 10th amendment

1710
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,880
that's what we need bring the power back

1711
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,880
to us i don't care about the federal the

1712
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,240
federal level you're playing too many

1713
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,760
there's too many interests there's too

1714
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,760
much money involved

1715
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,079
it's a rigged game you know like wanos

1716
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:06,319
haven't said you can't fix dc

1717
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,240
you can't can't fix dc because it is

1718
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,640
fixed it's a fix okay

1719
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,000
you're coming to corporation it's a

1720
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,680
corporate it's a freaking corporation

1721
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,599
it's not even it's it's literally it's a

1722
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:17,200
corporate state that they established

1723
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:18,559
this district of columbia corporate

1724
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:21,119
state that they've set up

1725
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:23,040
and they're occupying us with it we need

1726
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:24,400
to bring the power back to the people we

1727
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,520
need to bring that power back to the

1728
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:27,440
states first so the counties to the

1729
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,319
level of what is closest to us

1730
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,839
this is our path this is our bringing

1731
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,440
power to ourselves

1732
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,520
that's the path forward trump is great

1733
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:37,760
because he's there to inspire to you

1734
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,319
know to basically rally to

1735
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,640
shake people up but no it's up to us to

1736
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,319
do the work we can't sit there and say

1737
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,240
anyone else is going to do it we each

1738
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,920
are of us and trusting you know again

1739
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:49,280
it's not like we have to

1740
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,640
go out there and have a revolution we

1741
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,240
gotta trust the spirit we gotta trust

1742
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,520
the spirit that's working through this

1743
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:56,079
time period that's elucidating things

1744
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,520
and it will continue to elucidate things

1745
00:59:01,910 --> 00:58:59,680
for us and it just as things elucidated

1746
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:01,920
it's our consciousness transforms

1747
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,720
and we realize new potentialities

1748
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,480
that are formed new real new realities

1749
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:08,640
that we can step into it's a process

1750
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:10,079
it's not an overnight thing this this

1751
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:11,359
takes time

1752
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,720
consciousness needs to crack it's like

1753
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:16,079
breaking that damn you know it's like

1754
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,359
you create enough pressure and it's like

1755
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:19,359
slowly there starts you know the

1756
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,400
cracks

1757
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:22,079
start to you know start to give and the

1758
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,359
next thing you know it's like it'll it

1759
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,920
will it will ultimately break but

1760
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,960
you know just

1761
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,880
every crack

1762
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,400
you know like that's what leonard cohen

1763
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:31,599
said right every

1764
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,920
every crack that's how the light gets in

1765
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:35,680
every crack matters

1766
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:38,559
from your lips to god's ears as they say

1767
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:39,920
hey sean what are you what are you

1768
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:43,119
working on nowadays what's the next

1769
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:44,640
big thing as i mentioned a minute ago

1770
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:47,599
you know you continue to put out some

1771
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,079
great great interviews i mean

1772
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:51,920
again it's because you have this

1773
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,040
this background you know you just are so

1774
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:56,799
tuned in to all these kind of things i

1775
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:58,960
just saw the interview you did about the

1776
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:01,280
rfk junior book you know number one book

1777
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,240
in the country for six weeks

1778
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,160
and no way you know it let's tell the

1779
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:07,680
media where they can just pretend it

1780
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,720
doesn't exist the media can pretend that

1781
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:12,319
the truck drivers aren't rolling down

1782
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:14,960
the streets of canada and they're at

1783
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,720
fantasyland there aren't millions of

1784
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,880
protesters on the streets in in europe

1785
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,480
and all the rest that stuff so you're

1786
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:22,640
still doing work

1787
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,319
where are you gonna channel that how is

1788
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:26,400
that gonna come out

1789
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,000
you know i'm in between projects so

1790
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,839
we'll see what that next what you know

1791
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:31,280
what god wants i would say you know

1792
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,640
essentially it's like you can't force

1793
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:34,000
the universe the universe is going to

1794
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:35,440
bring through what

1795
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,520
what is needed next so for now i do the

1796
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,880
portray on stuff

1797
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,720
um because that's a good place to just

1798
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:42,240
do interviews conversations that are

1799
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,520
interesting to me and

1800
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,359
let people have a have a listen i'm also

1801
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,960
offering like meditations there and also

1802
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:48,720
even private sessions that people want

1803
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:50,880
to do like uh you know

1804
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:53,119
coaching guidance feedback

1805
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,880
divination

1806
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:56,720
for it you know

1807
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:59,040
in listening to some of your meditations

1808
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:00,799
they're really nice they're very very

1809
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,559
open-hearted you can tell it's

1810
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,480
completely sincere

1811
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:05,920
how are you understanding your

1812
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:09,040
connection to et and i know that's super

1813
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:10,720
complicated and we could spend a lot of

1814
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,599
time

1815
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:13,599
on that but again i think it's central

1816
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,000
to this i don't know for myself i'll

1817
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:18,960
offer i don't quite understand it i

1818
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:21,440
don't quite understand the

1819
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,240
it seems like a reality but it's just

1820
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,920
beyond

1821
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,400
my realm of understanding how all that

1822
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:30,640
fits in starseeding

1823
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,960
abduction which clearly seems like it's

1824
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:35,359
definitely just it's happening you know

1825
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:37,119
genetic engineering

1826
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,799
even the people who are in those

1827
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,200
communities who are you know have the

1828
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,359
most different opinions i remember

1829
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:46,480
interviewing dr david jacobs and mary

1830
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,480
rodwell both who have done

1831
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:50,079
hypnotic sessions with hundreds and

1832
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,280
hundreds of people and they're

1833
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:53,280
disagreeing left and right on all this

1834
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,680
stuff and then david jacobs goes well

1835
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,839
it's a program you know and then i go

1836
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,520
well mary what is what do you say about

1837
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:01,119
that david says it's a program and she

1838
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,559
pauses for a minute because she's all

1839
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:04,160
about the love and light e.t and she

1840
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:05,200
goes

1841
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,480
well yeah it's definitely a program

1842
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,559
it's a program i mean isn't that the

1843
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:12,880
lead story on it so how are you

1844
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,520
processing the et thing in your personal

1845
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:17,680
spirituality to whatever extent you you

1846
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:21,039
feel comfortable talking about that

1847
01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:24,480
again i i trust in creator you know the

1848
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,119
creator let's say the the highest levels

1849
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:29,440
of creation working through from like

1850
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,119
the angelic realm

1851
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,039
and everything in this universe is

1852
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:35,200
birthed from to me from from from that

1853
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,319
source

1854
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:37,839
so

1855
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:40,160
everything that we experience

1856
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:44,160
is it exists within the realms of

1857
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,960
the infinitude of potentiality

1858
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,359
but all that we can know

1859
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:50,720
is this moment

1860
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,720
everything outside of this moment

1861
01:03:10,069 --> 01:02:54,720
it's

1862
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:10,079
what's what's now is this experience

1863
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,559
as we feel it and the truth is we don't

1864
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:14,319
fully feel even this moment we don't

1865
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:16,480
fully experience even this moment

1866
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,160
so really what is there to say we're

1867
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,960
here to debate we're here to discuss

1868
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:22,640
we're here to experience we're here to

1869
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,359
feel and have the contrast and all these

1870
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:26,880
different polarities

1871
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:28,160
as

1872
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,079
we the i am comes to know itself better

1873
01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:33,839
yeah that's that's beautiful sean it's

1874
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:36,559
it's yeah i i think that's pretty solid

1875
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:39,920
ground there so again for people to to

1876
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,799
follow you you think patreon is is the

1877
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,200
best place that they can you know they

1878
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:47,680
can support and get new content

1879
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:50,079
um obviously i put stuff on social media

1880
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,160
on instagram and rumble and such but i

1881
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:54,240
really think uh patreon's a good place

1882
01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:56,079
where i feel like i can put out these

1883
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:57,920
interviews without being censored by

1884
01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:00,160
youtube

1885
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,480
well fantastic thanks again so much for

1886
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,160
coming on appreciate it

1887
01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:07,039
all right brother thank you bye

1888
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:08,880
thanks again to sean stone for joining

1889
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:11,440
me today on skeptico the one question i

1890
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,280
t up from this interview is what do you

1891
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:15,839
think power and control issues personal

1892
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:17,680
power and control issues

1893
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:20,960
might have to do with the craziness that

1894
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:23,200
we see in the world

1895
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:24,559
it's kind of a funny question to

1896
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,280
contemplate because we all understand

1897
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,160
our own power and control issues

1898
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:32,079
we just can't imagine what they'd be

1899
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:34,400
like if they were amped up

1900
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:37,359
10 20 100 times

1901
01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:39,119
let me know your thoughts on that of

1902
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,039
course i got some really good ones

1903
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:43,680
coming up do stay with me for all of

1904
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,559
that

1905
01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:46,880
until next time take care

1906
01:04:56,020 --> 01:04:49,500
and bye for now